until the government knows more about the internet than these guys, maybe they should leave it alone... these are the exact people they should be consulting with when it comes to SOPA. at least consult with Google, Amazon, & other big CEOs that knows it's not a series of tubes.
it shouldn't be a bunch of rich old out of touch white guys handling these decisions.
Whatever happened to "Innocent till proven guilty?"
Just as YouTube or Vimeo does. MegaUpload offers to remove any copyright protected content off their servers, provided that the complainant can provide proof of either ownership or license to the protected content.
Anybody who has read SOPA or PIPA know that there is no need for proof, justice or ANY rule of law. It will all be in the hands of the businesses willing to buy the rights.
Cant believe after 5 years I finally got a story seen by more than 5 people, above 20 diggs, and onto the front page without selling my soul to MrBabyMan. Maybe Digg does work?
Uh, no. I really don't have to support unfounded criminal charges against people (pirates) that thus far the industry has been COMPLETELY unable to assign an actual damage value to.
Or to put it another way, I'm not rooting for the cops to catch a car thief when they have no goddamn proof he's ever taken a car, EVER.
Am I mistaken in believing that the best security experts are the criminals? Maybe you're right, though. If we can find out what our vulnerabilities are, we should just leave them open rather than taint ourselves by associating with these criminal heathens.
the criminals you refer to are average people downloading copywritten material. kids downloading songs. people uploading youtube videos with material that belong to others...
'hacktivists' aren't necessary criminals. they are reacting to actions taken by the wrong people.
politicians who support prohibition support organized crime. voting for them is like voting for a mob boss.
they created/voted on these bill because of pressure from entertainment industry. follow the money. again, they are focused on bills protecting the wrong people.
used to, they'd protect average people from time to time & bills like this would not stick out like a sore thumb. ignore us, bicker like school children getting their way, & this is what you get.
No, I'm burying him for thinking you need some special access to a website to bring it down. I didn't see anything in the article that suggests Anon did anything of the sort.
Are you forgetting The Patriot Act? and the illegal war that drained the economy? and the Lehman Brothers going bust 3 months before Obama took office?
To say the economy is Obama's fault is outrageous. I'm a Brit and everyone blamed Gordon Brown here because it happened on his watch. As if it's his fault that the world economy was shook because of something that happened half way around the world.
It's like blaming a football manager for losing a game after a plane crash wiped out his whole squad the day of the match.
It's a world economy issue. Different political parties all over the western world were ruined.
you know you are right, I let my emotions get the best of me on that one. But I for one am sick of being guilty until i prove myself innocent. I just need to choose my wording more carefully.
Absolutely agreed with the both of you. The unlawfulness and hypocrisy of the American legal system these days really puts us to shame. As if having no real culture of our own, being degraded to an AA credit rating, and being known as "the bully" and the world's "fattest" nation by other countries wasn't enough, we compromise the only thing that was ever ours; democracy. And so we begin our descent to a totalitarian government, just like Orwell predicted.
You mean the SOPA and PIPA that didn't get past? The greatest corruption of the American Legal system isn't that the politicians have been bought but that the politicians themselves have managed to convince the people that it's broken and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
I think the "people" showed the government the other day that the lies we've been fed aren't true and that if we still want this government, it can be ours.
Take a look at the evidence in the indictment (around page 30 mostly). It is pretty damning. They were deliberately keeping files they knew were copyrighted on their servers with the intent to profit from their presence. I have to agree that merits a take down of the site even if I personally loved the legitimate services that Megauploads provided.
mobberJan 20, 2012Buried
until the government knows more about the internet than these guys, maybe they should leave it alone... these are the exact people they should be consulting with when it comes to SOPA. at least consult with Google, Amazon, & other big CEOs that knows it's not a series of tubes.
it shouldn't be a bunch of rich old out of touch white guys handling these decisions.
UncleRuckuJan 20, 2012Buried
Whatever happened to "Innocent till proven guilty?"
Just as YouTube or Vimeo does. MegaUpload offers to remove any copyright protected content off their servers, provided that the complainant can provide proof of either ownership or license to the protected content.
MrFrogyJan 20, 2012Buried
Nerd rage, when directed at the people who deserve it, is a beautiful thing!
dauntless1Jan 20, 2012Buried
Anybody who has read SOPA or PIPA know that there is no need for proof, justice or ANY rule of law. It will all be in the hands of the businesses willing to buy the rights.
sattireattireJan 19, 2012Buried
it's just their website...
hell they might not even be hosting the website, it might be provided by a 3rd party service.
smackertJan 20, 2012Buried
Cant believe after 5 years I finally got a story seen by more than 5 people, above 20 diggs, and onto the front page without selling my soul to MrBabyMan. Maybe Digg does work?
dauntless1Jan 20, 2012Buried
Uh, no. I really don't have to support unfounded criminal charges against people (pirates) that thus far the industry has been COMPLETELY unable to assign an actual damage value to.
Or to put it another way, I'm not rooting for the cops to catch a car thief when they have no goddamn proof he's ever taken a car, EVER.
whipnetJan 20, 2012Buried
White guys? The Attorney General is black. (??)
extremephobiaJan 20, 2012Buried
Am I mistaken in believing that the best security experts are the criminals? Maybe you're right, though. If we can find out what our vulnerabilities are, we should just leave them open rather than taint ourselves by associating with these criminal heathens.
mobberJan 20, 2012Buried
the criminals you refer to are average people downloading copywritten material. kids downloading songs. people uploading youtube videos with material that belong to others...
'hacktivists' aren't necessary criminals. they are reacting to actions taken by the wrong people.
politicians who support prohibition support organized crime. voting for them is like voting for a mob boss.
they created/voted on these bill because of pressure from entertainment industry. follow the money. again, they are focused on bills protecting the wrong people.
used to, they'd protect average people from time to time & bills like this would not stick out like a sore thumb. ignore us, bicker like school children getting their way, & this is what you get.
rileykaJan 20, 2012Buried
Yes, Yes it is.
dauntless1Jan 20, 2012Buried
No, I'm burying him for thinking you need some special access to a website to bring it down. I didn't see anything in the article that suggests Anon did anything of the sort.
dandoniaJan 20, 2012Buried
Are you forgetting The Patriot Act? and the illegal war that drained the economy? and the Lehman Brothers going bust 3 months before Obama took office?
To say the economy is Obama's fault is outrageous. I'm a Brit and everyone blamed Gordon Brown here because it happened on his watch. As if it's his fault that the world economy was shook because of something that happened half way around the world.
It's like blaming a football manager for losing a game after a plane crash wiped out his whole squad the day of the match.
It's a world economy issue. Different political parties all over the western world were ruined.
ganjadude4391Jan 20, 2012Buried
you know you are right, I let my emotions get the best of me on that one. But I for one am sick of being guilty until i prove myself innocent. I just need to choose my wording more carefully.
paintballer747Jan 20, 2012Buried
Absolutely agreed with the both of you. The unlawfulness and hypocrisy of the American legal system these days really puts us to shame. As if having no real culture of our own, being degraded to an AA credit rating, and being known as "the bully" and the world's "fattest" nation by other countries wasn't enough, we compromise the only thing that was ever ours; democracy. And so we begin our descent to a totalitarian government, just like Orwell predicted.
extremephobiaJan 20, 2012Buried
You mean the SOPA and PIPA that didn't get past? The greatest corruption of the American Legal system isn't that the politicians have been bought but that the politicians themselves have managed to convince the people that it's broken and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
I think the "people" showed the government the other day that the lies we've been fed aren't true and that if we still want this government, it can be ours.
ajh16Jan 20, 2012Buried
http://www.scribd.com/doc/78786408/Mega-Indictment
Take a look at the evidence in the indictment (around page 30 mostly). It is pretty damning. They were deliberately keeping files they knew were copyrighted on their servers with the intent to profit from their presence. I have to agree that merits a take down of the site even if I personally loved the legitimate services that Megauploads provided.
therelentlessmomJan 20, 2012Buried
I totally agree!
wrekoniz3Jan 20, 2012Buried
You said it Brotha! :D
xpsiterJan 20, 2012Buried
+1, but I think they were just directing at the ever-present stereotypical lawmaker.