Ah, some religious justifications are truly circuitous and weird.
The whole idea for the "drinking breastmilk of an unrelated woman" comes from the fact that unrelated men and women aren't supposed to fraternize. The cleric figured that if a man drinks an unrelated woman's breast milk, then it creates a semi-maternal bond between the man and a woman (akin to that of a nursemaid, I guess) which would allow the two the fraternize as there is now a semi-familial bond between them.
Say what you will about religion, but it truly does promote lateral thinking to the nth degree.
They have some odd fetishes over there, I used to run an SSL proxy site (uranium235.org) back in the day and I woukld constantly see connections from the middle east browsing for she-male porn.. Like that's ALL the porn (well 95% realistically) that they look at. I'd often browse the logs just to see what people were doing and yep, chicks-with-dicks.. It's an odd sociological observation with a deep cultural connection.
GTFO of our religion. Stop spewing hatred of western life, while you hypocritically live lavishly under the benefits of western society. Stop spewing nonsense fatwas that are of no relevance to society. Stop throwing burkahs on women in the name of decency while on the other hand you take a dozen wives for your own enjoyment. Pretty much all of the hatred flowing through the Muslim world can be found at the source: Wahhabi fundamentalism backed by endless petrodollars.
Sincerely,
overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims
Saudi Arabia's craziness only exists by the backing of the American military-industrial complex, we keep the government in power for cheap oil, in turn they create the wahabbism and jihadism that creates groups like Al-Qaeda. and keep in mind our military is the largest consumer of oil
In Islamic tradition, intermingling of the sexes between unrelated men and women is discouraged. In particular, it depends on your mahram status or relation with that person. What does mahram mean? Mahram is someone that is related to you in a way that would make it forbidden for you to marry them, for example brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts etc are considered your mahram as you cannot marry them. When you are around mahram, women can observe a more relaxed dress code among other things.
People who are non-mahram (i.e. people you could be eligible to marry), you have to observe a higher level of modesty and cover up appropriately around them. Now there is a hadith (historical report) which clarified that if you were nursed as a child by an unrelated woman / foster mother, then that would forge a bond which would make that person into mahram status even though they were not related to you by blood (so you couldn't marry your foster brothers and sisters either).
Now this Saudi 'cleric' has taken that principle and royally butchered its meaning and the spirit of that directive, to come out with such absurdities as advocating drinking breast milk as adults in order to mingle more freely with those women. The hadith actually stipulated that this mahram status would only be created if the child that was suckled was up to 2 years old.
So there you have it. It probably doesn't reduce the embarrassment of muslims to have such f*cktards among us, but at least you've got a better understanding of how such nonsense can come about.
Wahabi Islam is not from the house of Saud, it is favored by militant princelings and other outsiders who covet power but who have none. The house of Saud itself at its upper echelons is deeply Westernized and quite liberal, but you would be correct in pointing out their corruption.
The ruling idiotic. The breastfeeding issue is only meant to apply to nurse maids nursing children who are not their own. When a woman nurses a child who is not her own, she in essence becomes a mother to him, and consided the childs Mahram, which basically means you can't marry/get busy with and also he can now see her with her head uncovered, etc. Also, the nursemaids children are also off limits, since they are now your brothers/sisters. Its a matter of convenience, since nursemaids sometimes live with the family. It was never meant to apply to adults.
harveywallbangAug 19, 2010Buried
Do they server breast milk at stonings like they sell beer in the stands at sporting events here in the US??
hanniballecterAug 19, 2010Buried
Ah, some religious justifications are truly circuitous and weird.
The whole idea for the "drinking breastmilk of an unrelated woman" comes from the fact that unrelated men and women aren't supposed to fraternize. The cleric figured that if a man drinks an unrelated woman's breast milk, then it creates a semi-maternal bond between the man and a woman (akin to that of a nursemaid, I guess) which would allow the two the fraternize as there is now a semi-familial bond between them.
Say what you will about religion, but it truly does promote lateral thinking to the nth degree.
zeibenAug 19, 2010Buried
He was only a 4th level cleric.
deathstingAug 19, 2010Buried
To the first man who discovered milk, whoever he is, what the hell was he trying to do with the cow
l0rdishtarAug 19, 2010Buried
They have some odd fetishes over there, I used to run an SSL proxy site (uranium235.org) back in the day and I woukld constantly see connections from the middle east browsing for she-male porn.. Like that's ALL the porn (well 95% realistically) that they look at. I'd often browse the logs just to see what people were doing and yep, chicks-with-dicks.. It's an odd sociological observation with a deep cultural connection.
cdnchaozAug 19, 2010Buried
Only if it's straight from the source.
jjsheedAug 19, 2010Buried
Bedouin Wahhabis of Arabia,
GTFO of our religion. Stop spewing hatred of western life, while you hypocritically live lavishly under the benefits of western society. Stop spewing nonsense fatwas that are of no relevance to society. Stop throwing burkahs on women in the name of decency while on the other hand you take a dozen wives for your own enjoyment. Pretty much all of the hatred flowing through the Muslim world can be found at the source: Wahhabi fundamentalism backed by endless petrodollars.
Sincerely,
overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims
angusmAug 19, 2010Buried
Saudi Arabia: home to the world's creepiest pick-up lines.
isenborgAug 19, 2010Buried
Breast Milk. Because everyone doesn't have a healing spell.
jonathan102Aug 19, 2010Buried
wtf?
captininsanityAug 19, 2010Buried
If you can't drink alcohol hey why not?
rudegarAug 19, 2010Buried
what you don't have stonings???!!1
why is it you Americans refuse to do the sports the rest of the world practice! :P jk
ronpauliskingAug 19, 2010Buried
Saudi Arabia's craziness only exists by the backing of the American military-industrial complex, we keep the government in power for cheap oil, in turn they create the wahabbism and jihadism that creates groups like Al-Qaeda. and keep in mind our military is the largest consumer of oil
tarantulusAug 19, 2010Buried
the military-industrial complex at it's finest
oxytechxAug 19, 2010Buried
What the f*ck indeed. Here is an explanation:
In Islamic tradition, intermingling of the sexes between unrelated men and women is discouraged. In particular, it depends on your mahram status or relation with that person. What does mahram mean? Mahram is someone that is related to you in a way that would make it forbidden for you to marry them, for example brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts etc are considered your mahram as you cannot marry them. When you are around mahram, women can observe a more relaxed dress code among other things.
People who are non-mahram (i.e. people you could be eligible to marry), you have to observe a higher level of modesty and cover up appropriately around them. Now there is a hadith (historical report) which clarified that if you were nursed as a child by an unrelated woman / foster mother, then that would forge a bond which would make that person into mahram status even though they were not related to you by blood (so you couldn't marry your foster brothers and sisters either).
Now this Saudi 'cleric' has taken that principle and royally butchered its meaning and the spirit of that directive, to come out with such absurdities as advocating drinking breast milk as adults in order to mingle more freely with those women. The hadith actually stipulated that this mahram status would only be created if the child that was suckled was up to 2 years old.
So there you have it. It probably doesn't reduce the embarrassment of muslims to have such f*cktards among us, but at least you've got a better understanding of how such nonsense can come about.
oxidaneAug 19, 2010Buried
Religion.
basalcellbosskAug 19, 2010Buried
Wahabi Islam is not from the house of Saud, it is favored by militant princelings and other outsiders who covet power but who have none. The house of Saud itself at its upper echelons is deeply Westernized and quite liberal, but you would be correct in pointing out their corruption.
vidorianAug 19, 2010Buried
Maybe he tried a bull first and thought it didn't taste right.
daxx22Aug 19, 2010Buried
Well maybe they saw the calfs nursing, and got the whole 1 + 1 = 2?
Or he was a superfreak. That works too.
sooner82Aug 19, 2010Buried
The ruling idiotic. The breastfeeding issue is only meant to apply to nurse maids nursing children who are not their own. When a woman nurses a child who is not her own, she in essence becomes a mother to him, and consided the childs Mahram, which basically means you can't marry/get busy with and also he can now see her with her head uncovered, etc. Also, the nursemaids children are also off limits, since they are now your brothers/sisters. Its a matter of convenience, since nursemaids sometimes live with the family. It was never meant to apply to adults.