warning.. the following comment is not approved by Apple's Thought Police. Their Ministry of iTruth will not appreciate the facts presented here.
when Apple took away floppy drives, it was *Apple users* that pitched a bitchfest. The rest of the world didn't notice, and didn't care. Apple was such a tiny minority of computers that their decisions meant nothing to anyone except their own users, and their own users were upset by the decision to drop floppies, because it caused trouble for them (no way to get files from the vast majority of PC users who still had floppy drives and still used them at that point in time).
yes, eventually the PC world also moved away from floppies, but this was done gradually, as floppies became optional instead of standard, and then special request items, and only after many years finally because difficult to have installed. this gradual change worked well for the "real world", where you cannot just expect the entire user base to give up a medium instantly because you decide they should.
the facts that Apple took floppies away from their users, and then later floppies became rare in the PC world are not in any way related. Apple did not drive, lead, or have anything to do with the fact that PCs also dropped floppies.
I like how Apple makes this decision for their phone, and everyone freaks the f**k out. Adobe makes the decision for another major platform, and everyone's mildly disappointed.
I think people are pinning a lot of hope on what HTML5 can do.
Flash at the very least provided consistency in all browsers.
It was an interaction/animation tool, not a video codec like a lot of people think.
"Up until a year or two ago one of the main things determining the thickness of PC laptops was that they had to include a vga port"
this is just dumb. no laptop ever *had* to include anything. if they included something, it's because the market wanted it. in the real world, competition to appeal to the customer, in other words to satisfy the user's needs, drives what features are included.
"most laptops are probably never even hooked up to an external display."
except in the business world, where it's extremely common. both roadwarrior offices where a full sized screen and kb serve the mobile user, and in the conference room where the external display is a projector. these scenarios are happening every single day in most businesses. admittedly, business is a place where Macs are rarely seen, but still a massive market for laptops.
True, however in its infancy it caused many crashes and was constantly updating. I'm sure if they are backing HTML5 and put their exp. behind it this will be more of a finished product.
There is no law saying PC must include some port. PC manufacturers provide whatever customers want, it's as simple as that. If a PC has a serial or parallel port, it's because the manufacturer has found that the cost of including it is less than the sales that would be lost if they didn't.
Apple has a long history of screwing over their customers with drastic changes, and their customers have a long history of forgiving them for this (and their fanboys a long history of trying to spin these decisions as positive or somehow leading the industry, which is a real laugh). Such tactics don't work in the PC world, where you have to actually compete with other manufacturers.
"How many PCs still have a parallel port or serial port? when was the last time you used one"
That would be today, and every day for the past several years. My 3 year old Sharp Aquos LCD has a serial port interface on it, and my HTPC uses it to control the TV (more reliable than IR blasting, and it allows 2 way communication so the PC can know the current state of the TV).
Flash is nice for watching video. Remember the days when you'd visit a web site and it would say, "You must have xyz player installed to use this site." Buffering...
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TomHanks4Feb 8, 2012Buried
warning.. the following comment is not approved by Apple's Thought Police. Their Ministry of iTruth will not appreciate the facts presented here.
when Apple took away floppy drives, it was *Apple users* that pitched a bitchfest. The rest of the world didn't notice, and didn't care. Apple was such a tiny minority of computers that their decisions meant nothing to anyone except their own users, and their own users were upset by the decision to drop floppies, because it caused trouble for them (no way to get files from the vast majority of PC users who still had floppy drives and still used them at that point in time).
yes, eventually the PC world also moved away from floppies, but this was done gradually, as floppies became optional instead of standard, and then special request items, and only after many years finally because difficult to have installed. this gradual change worked well for the "real world", where you cannot just expect the entire user base to give up a medium instantly because you decide they should.
the facts that Apple took floppies away from their users, and then later floppies became rare in the PC world are not in any way related. Apple did not drive, lead, or have anything to do with the fact that PCs also dropped floppies.
jivatmanxFeb 8, 2012Buried
I don't know why you're getting dugg down, because Adobe themselves have said that they are abandoning flash in favor of HTML5.
redhautemamaFeb 8, 2012Buried
We still could use the older version of android browser though, so it's okay. Wish they wouldn't take it off from mobile devices in the future.
kingfootFeb 8, 2012Buried
I like how Apple makes this decision for their phone, and everyone freaks the f**k out. Adobe makes the decision for another major platform, and everyone's mildly disappointed.
djguerrillaFeb 8, 2012Buried
Flash is going away (on mobile devices). I would get used it to it*
*HTML5
cawpinFeb 8, 2012Buried
Um, Android phones do. It's just the new Chrome browser that doesn't.
innercool22Feb 8, 2012Buried
You could also install another browser.
nunfuFeb 8, 2012Buried
I think people are pinning a lot of hope on what HTML5 can do.
Flash at the very least provided consistency in all browsers.
It was an interaction/animation tool, not a video codec like a lot of people think.
TomHanks4Feb 8, 2012Buried
@antialias
"Up until a year or two ago one of the main things determining the thickness of PC laptops was that they had to include a vga port"
this is just dumb. no laptop ever *had* to include anything. if they included something, it's because the market wanted it. in the real world, competition to appeal to the customer, in other words to satisfy the user's needs, drives what features are included.
"most laptops are probably never even hooked up to an external display."
except in the business world, where it's extremely common. both roadwarrior offices where a full sized screen and kb serve the mobile user, and in the conference room where the external display is a projector. these scenarios are happening every single day in most businesses. admittedly, business is a place where Macs are rarely seen, but still a massive market for laptops.
8ballusaFeb 9, 2012Buried
True, however in its infancy it caused many crashes and was constantly updating. I'm sure if they are backing HTML5 and put their exp. behind it this will be more of a finished product.
TomHanks4Feb 8, 2012Buried
There is no law saying PC must include some port. PC manufacturers provide whatever customers want, it's as simple as that. If a PC has a serial or parallel port, it's because the manufacturer has found that the cost of including it is less than the sales that would be lost if they didn't.
Apple has a long history of screwing over their customers with drastic changes, and their customers have a long history of forgiving them for this (and their fanboys a long history of trying to spin these decisions as positive or somehow leading the industry, which is a real laugh). Such tactics don't work in the PC world, where you have to actually compete with other manufacturers.
ldkronosFeb 8, 2012Buried
"How many PCs still have a parallel port or serial port? when was the last time you used one"
That would be today, and every day for the past several years. My 3 year old Sharp Aquos LCD has a serial port interface on it, and my HTPC uses it to control the TV (more reliable than IR blasting, and it allows 2 way communication so the PC can know the current state of the TV).
ldkronosFeb 8, 2012Buried
"Why not have a $10 pci card with the serial port instead of thousands or millions of PCs that will never use it?"
I wasn't arguing...simply answering the question.
thespookFeb 8, 2012Buried
Flash is nice for watching video. Remember the days when you'd visit a web site and it would say, "You must have xyz player installed to use this site." Buffering...
ohnoeeeFeb 9, 2012Buried
Animators don't feel that way, and I don't think they'll make the jump until a similar flash-like program for it comes out.
nunfuFeb 9, 2012Buried
I agree with the updates issue. It cant work like that.
erichodge615Feb 8, 2012Buried
I do not think is good for them
kvnkaneFeb 8, 2012Buried
zzzz. someone hurry up and develope a phone that supports flash already
ka5p3rFeb 8, 2012Buried
time for new phone,chrome not available for lg g2x GB
mflansburgFeb 8, 2012Buried
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