Why having a friend’s submits section is important.
1) Removal of a friend’s submits section from Digg increases Power user’s power.
2) Allows you to track your friends submits over time.
3) Allows you to search your friends submits.
4) Allows non power users to see their friends’ submits.
Power users already have a network outside of Digg, be it a Blog, Facebook, Twitter or other means to up vote their friends submits.
You are not prohibiting Power User’s Activities.
You are as dumb as DRM!
You are punishing Average Users, preventing Average Users from enjoying your site.
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Why the Bury option is important.
1) Allows good to get to the top, and filters out the bad.
2) Empowers the Digg users for good, and yes evil. <cough DPs>
3) Gives Digg users the ability to control the News.
What makes Digg different than RSS feeds is that Digg was controlled by the Diggers.
The Report button introduced a 3rd party with power over what users read.
This effectively destroys the sense of the community Digg once had, by removing the Digg users’ ability to control the News.
How to deal with Digg Patriots w/o removing the bury button!?!
- Analysis of how Digg Patriots work.
- Digg Patriots have built a social network to control what type of news hits the front page.
- Strategy: As a group they target stories to bury.
Counter strategy: Do Diggers like the DPs?
- The only people who like what the Digg Patriots do are the DPs.
- Put a tab for the “Most Buried News” in 24 hours, 7 days, and 30 days.
- Let the Digg and Bury War Begin!!!
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Why Edit needs a preview button
1) You give us 90 seconds to edit, what do you want, speed editing? Give us a preview button.
And remember how Kevin Rose finally backed off, publishing a blog post with the AACS key in the title (which became one of the most highly-dugg stories ever), asking for forgiveness and saying things like:
"[A]fter seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you’ve made it clear. You’d rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be."
Yeah. The same thing is happening now. While the front page is showing(just about only) day-old (or older) stories from Engadget and Mashable with 50 or 80 diggs, this 18-hour-old story clearly outlining all the problems with the new site has nearly 900 diggs and isn't popular yet:
Why is Digg censoring content once again? Why is the same guy who humbly apologized for trying to silence the community now approving that same censorship once again? Does the community no longer have any say in what appears on the site? What happened? Join me and fight for user driven content! Fight for our digg!!
They don't have a bury button anymore becuase they know people will bury into oblivion all the paid for links from mainstream media that now dominates the site. They bought these links on digg and they wouldn't be too happy if it disappeared now would they? The new digg means force feeding you content, the opposite of how it was founded.
Weird...I got home tonight, logged on to see how this embarrassing mess was progressing, and just realized how absolutely over it I am, and how ready I am to move on completely to reddit or wherever...apparently two days of bitching is more or less enough to get closure for four years of community, at least when it's so blindingly clear the admins of said community are unable - for motivations of their choosing or otherwise - to change their disastrous course...
There's a lot anger, including from me, about the destruction of what was created here, but from a lot us, it's also a desperate kind of despair that that destruction seems to be motivated by the thought that digg can be morphed into a partial facebook/twitter/RSS feed competitor...it's just honestly mind-blowing, like no one involved in the business decision-making process actually understands the product or the underlying demographics....will still have to come back for a day or two to see if the rest of the old community feels the same way, but as far as new comments go, this really has to be my last...good run, ripd...
Not gonna happen. The new digg is designed for corporate spam. It's not some unintended consequence of the design.. it's what was meant to happen all along.
NOW IF WE COULD JUST HACK THE MAINFRAME WE'D GET THE OLD DIGG FIBER OPTICS RUNNING BEHIND THE NEW FIREWALL AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REBOOT THE CPU TO COPY THE FLASH DRIVE.
The only way we're going to be able to do this is by following each other and landing on the pages where we demand that they fix and restore s**t, comment on things and digg articles that explain exactly how s**tty this really is. When advertisers see nothing but blogs linked about how digg f**ked us all over maybe digg will respond. Hell, I think that's the only reason they *would* respond, if we all pull together.
I like the looks of the interface. It's just too damn buggy, a waste of time to use, nothing is here anymore that I used before. The only thing I'm finding useful is following all the brethren that are like minded in saying THIS s**t SUCKS.
Because it does. Bad move, whoever was in charge of this abortive elephant fetus of a site. I used to like digg. Right now I'm on the fence and it's hurting my ass so I'm going to jump on one side or the other and stay there real real soon.
Digg's corporate mouthpiece is doing a f**king horrible job, I think, of explaining what the hell happened and who let loose this crap to all the millions of users per day, knowing full well that it's us who will be all over the place bitching about it until it's fixed or there's nothing really worth reading here anymore.
This is different. A digg submission getting submitted to Digg. Intended or a bug?
While I know many, including me, would enjoy seeing the old Digg again, we all know that it won't happen. What CAN happen is for this to be an open Beta for a couple of weeks with feedback forum monitored and replied to by Digg and potentially even a focus group that goes into the various features and helps to improve them.
The old Digg might never come back, but there are issues with the new Digg (beyond the obvious bugs) that can be fixed to make most happy.
There is a reason why the bury button is important to users. I fully expect some people to abuse the bury button. I simply want the tools to counter them.
Bury Brigades have been fighting a war against unaware, unarmed Diggers, with little to no way to know what was happening as it was happening, until it was too late. I want a Digg and Bury war on even terms.
Even the playing field.
Let the average user of Digg see what is being buried and allow them to fight to bring the story to the front page.
yanko1975Aug 28, 2010Buried
Why having a friend’s submits section is important.
1) Removal of a friend’s submits section from Digg increases Power user’s power.
2) Allows you to track your friends submits over time.
3) Allows you to search your friends submits.
4) Allows non power users to see their friends’ submits.
Power users already have a network outside of Digg, be it a Blog, Facebook, Twitter or other means to up vote their friends submits.
You are not prohibiting Power User’s Activities.
You are as dumb as DRM!
You are punishing Average Users, preventing Average Users from enjoying your site.
--------------------------
Why the Bury option is important.
1) Allows good to get to the top, and filters out the bad.
2) Empowers the Digg users for good, and yes evil. <cough DPs>
3) Gives Digg users the ability to control the News.
What makes Digg different than RSS feeds is that Digg was controlled by the Diggers.
The Report button introduced a 3rd party with power over what users read.
This effectively destroys the sense of the community Digg once had, by removing the Digg users’ ability to control the News.
How to deal with Digg Patriots w/o removing the bury button!?!
- Analysis of how Digg Patriots work.
- Digg Patriots have built a social network to control what type of news hits the front page.
- Strategy: As a group they target stories to bury.
Counter strategy: Do Diggers like the DPs?
- The only people who like what the Digg Patriots do are the DPs.
- Put a tab for the “Most Buried News” in 24 hours, 7 days, and 30 days.
- Let the Digg and Bury War Begin!!!
-----------------------------
Why Edit needs a preview button
1) You give us 90 seconds to edit, what do you want, speed editing? Give us a preview button.
exhale100Aug 28, 2010Buried
Hey guys! Remember when Digg tried to censor the HD-DVD encryption key back in 2007?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_ke...
Remember how they'd delete stories containing the key and ban people who posted it?
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2007/05/blogger_...
Remember how everybody got so pissed off that the entire front page became full of stories talking about the key and slagging the site?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/H...
And remember how Kevin Rose finally backed off, publishing a blog post with the AACS key in the title (which became one of the most highly-dugg stories ever), asking for forgiveness and saying things like:
"[A]fter seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you’ve made it clear. You’d rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be."
http://about.digg.com/blog/digg-09-f9-11-02-9d-...
Yeah. The same thing is happening now. While the front page is showing(just about only) day-old (or older) stories from Engadget and Mashable with 50 or 80 diggs, this 18-hour-old story clearly outlining all the problems with the new site has nearly 900 diggs and isn't popular yet:
http://digg.com/news/technology/dear_kevin_rose_2
This one has nearly 1,300 diggs and is likewise suppressed:
http://digg.com/news/worldnews/rip_digg_com
Why is Digg censoring content once again? Why is the same guy who humbly apologized for trying to silence the community now approving that same censorship once again? Does the community no longer have any say in what appears on the site? What happened? Join me and fight for user driven content! Fight for our digg!!
robzenicaAug 28, 2010Buried
Kevin needs to quit playing CEO's and hand the position back to someone who knows what the f**k they're doing.
telekenesisAug 28, 2010Buried
They don't have a bury button anymore becuase they know people will bury into oblivion all the paid for links from mainstream media that now dominates the site. They bought these links on digg and they wouldn't be too happy if it disappeared now would they? The new digg means force feeding you content, the opposite of how it was founded.
bmad965Aug 28, 2010Buried
One of these actually made it through to the front page? I didn't think it would ever happen.
boutdemcanes91Aug 28, 2010Buried
Remember the good ol' days when Digg was an awesome site? Ah... Good times, good times...It feels like it was only a few days ago..
THEN IT ALL WENT TO SATAN'S assh**E! WTF!
kmyeAug 28, 2010Buried
Weird...I got home tonight, logged on to see how this embarrassing mess was progressing, and just realized how absolutely over it I am, and how ready I am to move on completely to reddit or wherever...apparently two days of bitching is more or less enough to get closure for four years of community, at least when it's so blindingly clear the admins of said community are unable - for motivations of their choosing or otherwise - to change their disastrous course...
There's a lot anger, including from me, about the destruction of what was created here, but from a lot us, it's also a desperate kind of despair that that destruction seems to be motivated by the thought that digg can be morphed into a partial facebook/twitter/RSS feed competitor...it's just honestly mind-blowing, like no one involved in the business decision-making process actually understands the product or the underlying demographics....will still have to come back for a day or two to see if the rest of the old community feels the same way, but as far as new comments go, this really has to be my last...good run, ripd...
nepidaeAug 28, 2010Buried
yeah, diggbar was awesome ... oh wait no.
sporttouringAug 28, 2010Buried
Yeah, let's see how long this remains on the front page.
jkalAug 28, 2010Buried
join the protest change your pic
http://imgur.com/oKMm0.jpg
stepheniscoolAug 28, 2010Buried
Well...I never did give Reddit a chance. I guess now is a better time than ever.
factorof13Aug 28, 2010Buried
What magical spell did you cast to make this happen? First FP story I've dugg all day.
factorof13Aug 28, 2010Buried
Not gonna happen. The new digg is designed for corporate spam. It's not some unintended consequence of the design.. it's what was meant to happen all along.
annonnmouseAug 28, 2010Buried
NOW IF WE COULD JUST HACK THE MAINFRAME WE'D GET THE OLD DIGG FIBER OPTICS RUNNING BEHIND THE NEW FIREWALL AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REBOOT THE CPU TO COPY THE FLASH DRIVE.
shadowspawnAug 28, 2010Buried
The only way we're going to be able to do this is by following each other and landing on the pages where we demand that they fix and restore s**t, comment on things and digg articles that explain exactly how s**tty this really is. When advertisers see nothing but blogs linked about how digg f**ked us all over maybe digg will respond. Hell, I think that's the only reason they *would* respond, if we all pull together.
I like the looks of the interface. It's just too damn buggy, a waste of time to use, nothing is here anymore that I used before. The only thing I'm finding useful is following all the brethren that are like minded in saying THIS s**t SUCKS.
Because it does. Bad move, whoever was in charge of this abortive elephant fetus of a site. I used to like digg. Right now I'm on the fence and it's hurting my ass so I'm going to jump on one side or the other and stay there real real soon.
Digg's corporate mouthpiece is doing a f**king horrible job, I think, of explaining what the hell happened and who let loose this crap to all the millions of users per day, knowing full well that it's us who will be all over the place bitching about it until it's fixed or there's nothing really worth reading here anymore.
utahapocalyseAug 28, 2010Buried
I like the idea of having a "graveyard" to show the buried articles if you choose.
oboyAug 28, 2010Buried
This is different. A digg submission getting submitted to Digg. Intended or a bug?
While I know many, including me, would enjoy seeing the old Digg again, we all know that it won't happen. What CAN happen is for this to be an open Beta for a couple of weeks with feedback forum monitored and replied to by Digg and potentially even a focus group that goes into the various features and helps to improve them.
The old Digg might never come back, but there are issues with the new Digg (beyond the obvious bugs) that can be fixed to make most happy.
yanko1975Aug 28, 2010Buried
There is a reason why the bury button is important to users. I fully expect some people to abuse the bury button. I simply want the tools to counter them.
Bury Brigades have been fighting a war against unaware, unarmed Diggers, with little to no way to know what was happening as it was happening, until it was too late. I want a Digg and Bury war on even terms.
Even the playing field.
Let the average user of Digg see what is being buried and allow them to fight to bring the story to the front page.