The sheer audacity and ignorance of this is truly astounding. First they present the NoW as victims, rather perpetuators. Secondly, they talk about computing hacking rather than phone hacking.
Lies and stupidity. They're make me feel embarrassed to be a journalist.
From: Crymtyphon, Krymtyphon, & Chrimtiphon Bros, Attorneys @at Law
To: Mr. Mr. Teflon
Co: debacle
CC: goldidust; anomaly100; u2canfail
Dear Sir(s)/Madam(es)/corporate entity(ies):
this is formal notice that you are hearby called upon to
cease, desist, and in all ways refrain from refering to the
so-called 'debacle' of News Of the World and all sundry Fox
affiliates as in-point-of-fact a 'debacle'.
In fact of point, it is properly and only properly referentialy-wordable
as a 'tempest in a tea-pot', 'legal spat', or 'bruhaha'.
If in such time as Misters Murdock Jr. or Sr. are arrested,
the terminology can be legaly upgraded to 'partisan witchhunt tiff'.
If in such time as Ms. Brookes testifies against Misters Murdock,
the referenciing shall be ugraded to 'defcon 1 ground zero nagasaki iceberg gollum-just-fell-into-the-fire with-the-ring'.
Sincerely, possibly,
Crymtyphon, atr. at law
except where prohibited.
The evil behind the Fox News propaganda organization is steady in its purpose - to destroy logic and promote the distortion of truth..
Truth and understanding distorted;
Control of press, the 8th step in establishing dictatorship was outlined by Naomi Wolf. From the Guardian in 07 the takeover of government was outlined in ten steps already underway by the Bush..
Those ten steps - 'invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy, create a gulag, develop a thug caste, set up an internal surveillance system, harass citizens groups, engage in arbitrary detention and release, target key individuals, control the press, dissent equals treason, Suspend the Rule of Law'.
Because of ongoing investigation and public outcry Fox and News Corp no longer seem capable of perpetuating the lie because other news organizations are not stepping to their orders and repeating falsehoods obediently.
Because of leaked documents and the internet and organizations that are dedicated to the presentation of leaked documents that show the inner workings of government and abuses of power to the public at large truth has a way of getting out.. An Arab Spring.
The public knows somethings up and they are starting to pay attention.
Fascism - it relies on propaganda and perpetuation of the lie, the big lie Best Described by minister of propaganda 33to45 in Germany:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie and thus by extension. The truth is the greatest enemy of the state."
Umm, that's kind of how it works. If employees break federal law while performing tasks for the business, the manager takes it in the shorts along with them. Yes, it can even go higher than the manager at that point.
Murdock can't tell the truth, it is that simple. His "agenda" will never allow it. That said, what scum this was! You can't wonder how low they will go, as with each item, their next effort is far lower, than the last.
Wow, such disgusting behavior... Claiming Murdoch and his companies are the victim in all of this... how about the 9/11 victims who had their phones hacked by these right wing journalists? A new low for Fox... The GOP needs to stop playing the Victim card... take some responsibility for your actions.
Yes, yes there is no story here. Just some old news being recycled by the liberal media. We are all victims of hackers but they keep picking on us. It's not like Murdock's senior leadership team are busy getting arrested or resigning. It's not like his son has been implicated. It's not like the British Prime Minister may be forced out. It's not like Murdock's company had to drop its multi-billon dollar bid for a major news channel or that the FBI is now looking into questions about whether they hacked 911 victims phones. Oh, wait . . . all of these things are true? Oh well . . . it happened a long time ago. We need to worry about the important news stories now. Did you know Obama is a Socialist??????
Oh, so you went to school? That makes you a liberal elitist, you know... Real Americans don't need no fancy book learnin' cause they gots common sense!
You act like this is the first blatantly illegal or endangering thing any Murdoch owned-property has ever done. Its not even close to the first. It is fair to say that when it happens more than once, in more than one limb of the firm, its a problem with the firm's methodology, from the head down.
By the way, your denial is just shameful. People died because of this.
Nonsense. Murdock promoted the people involved for 5 years. It was only when the cover-up began to fall apart that he closed News Of The World. Now a couple of his closest team members are implicated, as are the British police. As for closing the News of the World, how does closing it prove anything? None of the perps were even working there anymore. He fired a bunch of innocent people trying to protect the people who now are resigning and being arrested and to try and save his big cable news channel purchase. It was just more of the continuing cover-up. Now that it all falling apart, I wonder if his loyal aides will now turn state's evidence or will he be able to buy them off like he did the first investigation.
Faux News and Murdoch are masters at the use of DARVO:
Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Opressor.
It's a particularly dishonest ploy that, unfortunately, works very well on the weak-minded. That their audience fits this description goes without saying.
GoldiedustJul 17, 2011Buried
The sheer audacity and ignorance of this is truly astounding. First they present the NoW as victims, rather perpetuators. Secondly, they talk about computing hacking rather than phone hacking.
Lies and stupidity. They're make me feel embarrassed to be a journalist.
mrteflonJul 17, 2011Buried
Well prepare for the onslaught of Fox apologists here in this thread to spin this into a Pro-Fox debacle.
crymtyphonJul 17, 2011Buried
From: Crymtyphon, Krymtyphon, & Chrimtiphon Bros, Attorneys @at Law
To: Mr. Mr. Teflon
Co: debacle
CC: goldidust; anomaly100; u2canfail
Dear Sir(s)/Madam(es)/corporate entity(ies):
this is formal notice that you are hearby called upon to
cease, desist, and in all ways refrain from refering to the
so-called 'debacle' of News Of the World and all sundry Fox
affiliates as in-point-of-fact a 'debacle'.
In fact of point, it is properly and only properly referentialy-wordable
as a 'tempest in a tea-pot', 'legal spat', or 'bruhaha'.
If in such time as Misters Murdock Jr. or Sr. are arrested,
the terminology can be legaly upgraded to 'partisan witchhunt tiff'.
If in such time as Ms. Brookes testifies against Misters Murdock,
the referenciing shall be ugraded to 'defcon 1 ground zero nagasaki iceberg gollum-just-fell-into-the-fire with-the-ring'.
Sincerely, possibly,
Crymtyphon, atr. at law
except where prohibited.
anomaly100Jul 17, 2011Buried
I saw this earlier and my mouth must have dropped to the floor. This confirms that the old propagadist isn't the least bit sorry.
skyislandJul 17, 2011Buried
The evil behind the Fox News propaganda organization is steady in its purpose - to destroy logic and promote the distortion of truth..
Truth and understanding distorted;
Control of press, the 8th step in establishing dictatorship was outlined by Naomi Wolf. From the Guardian in 07 the takeover of government was outlined in ten steps already underway by the Bush..
Those ten steps - 'invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy, create a gulag, develop a thug caste, set up an internal surveillance system, harass citizens groups, engage in arbitrary detention and release, target key individuals, control the press, dissent equals treason, Suspend the Rule of Law'.
Because of ongoing investigation and public outcry Fox and News Corp no longer seem capable of perpetuating the lie because other news organizations are not stepping to their orders and repeating falsehoods obediently.
Because of leaked documents and the internet and organizations that are dedicated to the presentation of leaked documents that show the inner workings of government and abuses of power to the public at large truth has a way of getting out.. An Arab Spring.
The public knows somethings up and they are starting to pay attention.
Fascism - it relies on propaganda and perpetuation of the lie, the big lie Best Described by minister of propaganda 33to45 in Germany:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie and thus by extension. The truth is the greatest enemy of the state."
udjetJul 17, 2011Buried
Umm, that's kind of how it works. If employees break federal law while performing tasks for the business, the manager takes it in the shorts along with them. Yes, it can even go higher than the manager at that point.
Had to study some cases like this in school.
u2canfailJul 17, 2011Buried
Murdock can't tell the truth, it is that simple. His "agenda" will never allow it. That said, what scum this was! You can't wonder how low they will go, as with each item, their next effort is far lower, than the last.
austinjameshereJul 17, 2011Buried
Wow, such disgusting behavior... Claiming Murdoch and his companies are the victim in all of this... how about the 9/11 victims who had their phones hacked by these right wing journalists? A new low for Fox... The GOP needs to stop playing the Victim card... take some responsibility for your actions.
chestnutridgeJul 17, 2011Buried
Yes, yes there is no story here. Just some old news being recycled by the liberal media. We are all victims of hackers but they keep picking on us. It's not like Murdock's senior leadership team are busy getting arrested or resigning. It's not like his son has been implicated. It's not like the British Prime Minister may be forced out. It's not like Murdock's company had to drop its multi-billon dollar bid for a major news channel or that the FBI is now looking into questions about whether they hacked 911 victims phones. Oh, wait . . . all of these things are true? Oh well . . . it happened a long time ago. We need to worry about the important news stories now. Did you know Obama is a Socialist??????
vladamirJul 18, 2011Buried
Phone hacking was an encouraged and widespread practice at News Of The World, not just "the acts of a few of it's employees". They hacked THOUSANDS of people.
Citation: http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/09/former-reporter-knew-coulson
Furthermore, Rupert Murdoch tried to pressure the UK government into not investigating the scandal.
Citation: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/09/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch-gordon-brown
I'll tell you what's audacious: implying that anything Rupert Murdoch touches is better than slime!
mrteflonJul 17, 2011Buried
Brilliant LOL Definitely Dugg!
darthseussJul 18, 2011Buried
Oh, so you went to school? That makes you a liberal elitist, you know... Real Americans don't need no fancy book learnin' cause they gots common sense!
miklkitJul 17, 2011Buried
Of course faux noise lies about it on national television. It is who they are, what they do.
It is kind of lame when the perpetrator tries to compare themselves to the victims.
u2canfailJul 17, 2011Buried
Murdock is guilty, NewsCorp is guilty, this spin, is total PROOF!
ericschc1Jul 18, 2011Buried
You act like this is the first blatantly illegal or endangering thing any Murdoch owned-property has ever done. Its not even close to the first. It is fair to say that when it happens more than once, in more than one limb of the firm, its a problem with the firm's methodology, from the head down.
By the way, your denial is just shameful. People died because of this.
mrteflonJul 17, 2011Buried
Aww looks like 4 or 5 Fox News apologists are trying to Digg me and the others down.. Whats the matter Truth hurt?
barmatJul 18, 2011Buried
Proof, or are you just pulling things out of your ass again?
bleueJul 18, 2011Buried
And shotguns and attractive cousins...
chestnutridgeJul 17, 2011Buried
Nonsense. Murdock promoted the people involved for 5 years. It was only when the cover-up began to fall apart that he closed News Of The World. Now a couple of his closest team members are implicated, as are the British police. As for closing the News of the World, how does closing it prove anything? None of the perps were even working there anymore. He fired a bunch of innocent people trying to protect the people who now are resigning and being arrested and to try and save his big cable news channel purchase. It was just more of the continuing cover-up. Now that it all falling apart, I wonder if his loyal aides will now turn state's evidence or will he be able to buy them off like he did the first investigation.
eyesbrightJul 17, 2011Buried
Faux News and Murdoch are masters at the use of DARVO:
Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Opressor.
It's a particularly dishonest ploy that, unfortunately, works very well on the weak-minded. That their audience fits this description goes without saying.