The Delicate Dance Of Disassociating Oneself From ‘White Nationalist’ Groups At CPAC
tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com — Although much of the attention is on the main stage at each year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, it’s the... Feb 11, 2012
vitriolandangstFeb 12, 2012Buried
It's delicate because while they whitewash and the KKK becomes the CCC, the sentiments remain the same.
It's annoying trying to keep up with all the "coded" language: racists have "urban" for black, Dominionists have certain terms that candidates use (especially that lopsided feral grin of Dick Cheney's, Rick Santorum's, and the rest), and economic royalists call crooks "job creators".
It almost makes you long for the days when people spoke their minds but hid their faces.
craig1958Feb 12, 2012Buried
If you don't hang out with these half-ass KKK wannabes, you don't have to "disassociate" yourself from them. If you want them to stay out of sight but still come out and vote for you, you are just a hypocrite. If you had any balls, you would publicly tell them to f**k off.
jpurdyFeb 12, 2012Buried
I suggest replacing "social conservative" with "social fascist". Forget the association of the word with history.
Oxford dictionary "(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices". That's a pretty good description of the extreme religious /s right.
Conservative, again from the Oxford dictionary - "averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values".
Seeking to elect legislators who would enact unconstitutional laws to take away individual rights is certainly not conservative.
Acting in accordance with the values of the New Testament would be conservative. Jesus taught love, compassion and caring for others. There is nothing in the New Testament encouraging believers to take over a secular government to force their beliefs on others. There's certainly nothing in the New Testament that would justify the psychological torture of women in one of the worst times of their lives, typified by the recently passed sonogram bill in Texas.
countess666Feb 12, 2012Buried
and if some wingnut does something terribly wrong, you just keep on insisting it was the best thing since sliced bread in the hope that people will start to believe you.
leodinFeb 12, 2012Buried
The real issue is, in my opinion, that fiscal conservatives need to do as much to distance themselves from social conservatives as possible. The two concepts couldn't be more at odds, and yet they're lumped together in this country, and it's the only reason social conservatives have any clout.
countess666Feb 12, 2012Buried
"averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values".
"Acting in accordance with the values of the New Testament would be conservative. Jesus taught love, compassion and caring for others."
what's funny of course is that Jesus was very much a progressive.
countess666Feb 13, 2012Buried
if you really had to have it spelled out for you:
he advocated social change.
that's the very essence of the word progressive (and not what you conservatives think it means as demonstrated again here)
p.s. apparently he was in favour of that though, he took one fish and make it many fish, depriving the fishermen of work.
apokalyps2547Feb 12, 2012Buried
A big red flag: "multiculturalism". Far-righties have taken the concept of free religion + racial equality, and re-branded it "multiculturalism" to make it sound scary.
Remember: every time you hear someone ragging on "multiculturalism", they're expressing their dissatisfaction with free religion and racial equality. Call them out for what they are.
countess666Feb 13, 2012Buried
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/progressive
the first political definition associated with progressive is:
"3. Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods:"
countess666Feb 13, 2012Buried
here is what progressive actually means.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/progressive
the first political definition associated with progressive is:
"3. Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods:"
"Progressive is a variant of socialist. "
i specifically said "and not what you conservatives think it means" and you still come up with that definition?
if this was a conversation IRL i would ask if you were hard of hearing.
countess666Feb 13, 2012Buried
"Virtually all"
a gross overstatement if I ever heard one.
in fact i can only see a few that would remotely warrant that description.
and from your link:
"by Michael Schwalbe"
why would i care what he thinks a progressive means?
countess666Feb 13, 2012Buried
education should be free or at least affordable to all.
its the best investment a government can make in its population, that in the long term will provide far more benefits to the country then it cost.
and not making it affordable to all means that a lot of talent is lost to the country. the smarter you are the higher the education you should be able to get.
the other 3, no i dont. not to that extent and not in the wording used.
but its true that the rich are treating the proper functioning of democracy, as today, money = speech.
capping their income is not the way to fix it.
"I saw that vague, nebulous definition too."
its the official definition of the word progressive.
not what you think it is, not what Michael Schwalbe thinks it is. no the official definition of the word.
and its exactly what jesus was.
deal with it.
jpurdyFeb 12, 2012Buried
Agree completely. However, the social fascists have power largely because apathy allowed them to take over much of the Republican party at precinct and state levels. That's why we have candidates like Santorum and Perry, among too many others. The state senator for one of the largest precincts in Texas is a radio talk show host. He wrote, and along with Perry, pushed the recently passed sonogram bill.
kasha34Feb 13, 2012Buried
@countess
And I'd say that education is the best investment one can make in oneself.
Glad to hear you don't agree with the rest of the points. Maybe you're not really a progressive.
I live in upstate NY. I know lots of self-proclaimed "progressives." They're for Occupy Everywhere. They would ALL agree with every last thing on that list.
How do I get along with them? One woman came up to me a couple of years ago. She proposed a deal. She said, when we're facing each other across the barricades we should agree to aim high at each other. She was serious.
arpadFeb 12, 2012Buried
You really do have too much time on your hands.
arpadFeb 12, 2012Buried
Oh I don't think you're making any friends around Digg with that comment.
Look, when something lefties do falls on its face, is a humiliating failure, turns out to be disastrously wrong it's important to just erase it from your mind and to attack anyone who has the temerity to remind you of it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
skywiseFeb 12, 2012Buried
heh... ya think? :)
kasha34Feb 12, 2012Buried
Jesus favored confiscating by force the fruits of a man's labor and giving it to strangers?
kasha34Feb 13, 2012Buried
"Social change"? No, that's NOT what "progressive" means. Progressive is a variant of socialist. Which means confiscating property by force. And giving it to someone else. Show me where Jesus advocated that.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kasha34Feb 13, 2012Buried
Here's a summary of what being "progressive" entails. Note that it's on a leftist site.
Virtually all the points require confiscating the fruits of a man/woman's labor by force. And giving them to others.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_12640.cfmComment is buried, click here to see the rest.