My good friend and honorably discharged Marine Josh Umlauf served two tours in Iraq. He blew his brains out in his parents house two weeks ago from yesterday. No one saw it coming. The military spends so much time and money training people how to be hardened killers and they spend so little time teaching them how to be civilians again. There is a big gap between being discharged from the Military and when you are able to receive VA help. You pretty much get out and you have to live with the horrors of war. Killing people and watching people die right next to you.
We really need to have a better discharge program so that other people don't have to experience what its like to lose someone this way.
You're absolutely right - this is seriously shonky statistics. The number of military personnel susceptible to suicide is every person in the US military; the number susceptible to being killed in Iraq is only those serving in Iraq, which is a small fraction of the total number.
Actually this is kinda the way the comment section works. Someone proposes an idea and then others provide evidence that affirms or opposes the idea. Or someone posts a pedobear ASCII.
Old Age? Not many on Active duty die of old age. From my time in the military though I remember the #1 cause of death among our own was traffic accidents, followed by alcohol related incidents. Although if alcohol was involved and a car was involved then it went into both categories. Suicide was #3.
Sorry I don't have the stats to back that up but it's what they briefed us on constantly.
I think my buddy's problem is that he didn't seek the help that was there but I just wish they would have done some kind of mandatory program that helps you come back to a civilian reality. Not saying he would still be here even if they had but maybe it would help.
spazattack5000Aug 18, 2010Buried
Source: A drawing on a wall.
iamghostAug 18, 2010Buried
My good friend and honorably discharged Marine Josh Umlauf served two tours in Iraq. He blew his brains out in his parents house two weeks ago from yesterday. No one saw it coming. The military spends so much time and money training people how to be hardened killers and they spend so little time teaching them how to be civilians again. There is a big gap between being discharged from the Military and when you are able to receive VA help. You pretty much get out and you have to live with the horrors of war. Killing people and watching people die right next to you.
We really need to have a better discharge program so that other people don't have to experience what its like to lose someone this way.
zloba00Aug 18, 2010Buried
Committed suicide statistic related to troops which based in Iraq or US army in general?
cgradoAug 18, 2010Buried
Sauce:
Deaths in Iraq in 2009: 149
http://icasualties.org/
Suicides in Army in 2009: 160
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/01/15/82471/despite-prevention-efforts-us.html
Marine Corps: 52
http://www.usmc-mccs.org/suicideprevent/stats_faqs.cfm
Navy: 48
Air Force: 41
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=49971
siliconrainAug 18, 2010Buried
You're absolutely right - this is seriously shonky statistics. The number of military personnel susceptible to suicide is every person in the US military; the number susceptible to being killed in Iraq is only those serving in Iraq, which is a small fraction of the total number.
Anyway, f**k them all.
sporttouringAug 18, 2010Buried
Title of the site doesn't quite work for this picture: LMAO AT LIFE
diggorelseAug 17, 2010Buried
Interesting how someone corrected the addition.
entropyfanAug 18, 2010Buried
http://www.icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx
http://www.congress.org/news/2009/11/25/rising_military_suicides
That any better?
KansasCityChefsAug 18, 2010Buried
Actually this is kinda the way the comment section works. Someone proposes an idea and then others provide evidence that affirms or opposes the idea. Or someone posts a pedobear ASCII.
ryanwbAug 18, 2010Buried
lol @ sauce
ryanwbAug 18, 2010Buried
[citation needed]
cschroAug 18, 2010Buried
Please tell us how. The graphic and the numbers are simply pointing out that our soldiers are not getting some much needed help.
oxidaneAug 18, 2010Buried
There's also a shadow of a c**k pointed at the sailors.
yunusAug 18, 2010Buried
Old Age? Not many on Active duty die of old age. From my time in the military though I remember the #1 cause of death among our own was traffic accidents, followed by alcohol related incidents. Although if alcohol was involved and a car was involved then it went into both categories. Suicide was #3.
Sorry I don't have the stats to back that up but it's what they briefed us on constantly.
e36wheelmanAug 18, 2010Buried
Mathematics. Addition mostly.
rmxzAug 18, 2010Buried
It'd be interesting to put other causes of death in the charts too.
How many US soliders killed by car accidents during that time?
Or by cancer?
Or by old age?
Anyone have those stats?
Might end up putting both the KIA and suicide numbers in better perspective.
tha1derAug 18, 2010Buried
Shouldnt it say Navy, instead of sailors? Thats like saying "Soldiers" instead of Army or Marines.
carusopAug 18, 2010Buried
**** the war
iamghostAug 18, 2010Buried
I think my buddy's problem is that he didn't seek the help that was there but I just wish they would have done some kind of mandatory program that helps you come back to a civilian reality. Not saying he would still be here even if they had but maybe it would help.
Either way thanks for serving our country.
e36wheelmanAug 18, 2010Buried
Bulls**t. As a Marine, I can tell you there are many programs, whether active duty or discharged. There is also a huge civilian network.