The infrastructure of the US's internet couldn't handle it. Can you imagine the disaster when the internet goes down nationwide when Modern Warfare 6 gets released and everybody has to download the whole thing??
Plus the users would revolt if they couldn't resell their 3 week old game for pennies on the dollar to gamestop
Because I'd rather not have to download everything from the internet if I have an HDD failure... Because plenty of US carriers are still little bitches about overall monthly data usage.... Because I want a physical copy of my games so I can resell them when I'm done..
You think iNet carriers are being bitchy now? Wait till everyone with an xBox has to download GB upon GB for each and every game sold.
a) Because your largest Market (North America) doesn't have sufficient broadband infrastructure to make this happen wide spread.
b) Some people actually prefer the ability to loan / borrow / resell games that they no longer want.
c) Games are cheaper on physical mediums due to warehousing and carrying costs. Amazon/ Best Buy/ Walmart etc... has very real costs for a product sitting on a shelf which encourages discounting to move them, digital costs are so low they are practically zero.
If I can't collect physical games for a system, I don't want to own it. Period. I'd rather stick to my existing collection of games and consoles than buy something that's download only.
1. Hard drives have jumped in price for the foreseeable future due to the Tawain floods.
2. Digital downloads provide nothing for the retailers to sell. They are powerful entities that may just decide it is no longer worth selling the console itself.
3. Digital downloads seeks to remove first sale rights (and equivalent) which grant ownership and protect the consumer from abuse.
4. Consoles die which can take out a whole software library in one hit unlike media based software which is only individually vulnerable.
5. Download speeds & caps are still a very real part of The Internet and inhibit both software and content based distribution. It is not uncommon for multi-GB downloads to incur substantial extra costs to the end-user.
That is pretty much true of anything that someone sells used... My used car sale doesn't benefit all the people that made it. Selling my used computer/console doesn't benefit anyone that designed or built it. Games are no different at all.
Computers, Consoles, Cars, Trucks, etc. all take money, time, effort, people, manufacturing facilities, distributors, etc... I can tell you that making a new style car from scratch is very expensive and time consuming. Creating games from scratch isn't the only market done this way.
So, what you're really calling for is abolishing the entire used market which will create even more waste and demand on resources because now, everything has to be created new. Plus, you'd actually hurt the economy, because people that would buy used now can't, and, would be forced to just do something else, which could be to buy nothing at all. Now, you've taken away from the employees at places that sell used commodities, that transport used commodities, etc.
Just because the people that originally made the game aren't getting more profit from the sale of the used one doesn't mean that it's not benefiting someone else that in turn would end up buying something new they wouldn't have originally been able to had I not sold them my used product and kept them in a job.
I just hope that they figure out that a $60 game that I CAN sell (lend, trade, etc) has a very different value than a game that I can never sell, trade, or lend. Downloadable content should follow Steam's model when it comes to pricing.
"There's a word for people like that. Murderers. "
You're exaggerating to the point of absurdity.
A friend lent me Dead Space, I loved the game so much I bought it, Dead Space 2 (collector's edition), Dead Space Mobile, Dead Space Martyr, 6 Dead Space comics, the Dead Space hacking minigame, Dead Space extraction
meribianJan 26, 2012Buried
I want to be able to play all of my games with or without an internet connection. I can't have down internet f**king up my playing.
jceezJan 26, 2012Buried
Because sometimes I'd rather not download a 20GB file or however large next gen games will be.
ridgerunner5Jan 26, 2012Buried
The infrastructure of the US's internet couldn't handle it. Can you imagine the disaster when the internet goes down nationwide when Modern Warfare 6 gets released and everybody has to download the whole thing??
Plus the users would revolt if they couldn't resell their 3 week old game for pennies on the dollar to gamestop
jeworldJan 26, 2012Buried
I like the fact I can download old games, but you can't resell them. The bandwidth thing is a big issue too, especially with throttling.
shingoexJan 26, 2012Buried
Because, like cloud storage, I don't want my gaming ability to be affected by outside sources, such as reliance on network upkeep.
nickchopperJan 26, 2012Buried
Agreed!!!!
shingoexJan 26, 2012Buried
It's not just availability...it also includes factors such as downtime and overall connection quality.
HumanWikiJan 26, 2012Buried
Because I'd rather not have to download everything from the internet if I have an HDD failure... Because plenty of US carriers are still little bitches about overall monthly data usage.... Because I want a physical copy of my games so I can resell them when I'm done..
You think iNet carriers are being bitchy now? Wait till everyone with an xBox has to download GB upon GB for each and every game sold.
HumanWikiJan 27, 2012Buried
Guess you don't believe in ever selling a used car either..
Seriously? Because people worked hard on it and got paid, I'm supposed to never be able to sell it back? They already got their money from me.
trdrstvJan 26, 2012Buried
a) Because your largest Market (North America) doesn't have sufficient broadband infrastructure to make this happen wide spread.
b) Some people actually prefer the ability to loan / borrow / resell games that they no longer want.
c) Games are cheaper on physical mediums due to warehousing and carrying costs. Amazon/ Best Buy/ Walmart etc... has very real costs for a product sitting on a shelf which encourages discounting to move them, digital costs are so low they are practically zero.
chadpyleJan 26, 2012Buried
3 words, 1 acronym: D-R-M
r0g3rJan 27, 2012Buried
If I can't collect physical games for a system, I don't want to own it. Period. I'd rather stick to my existing collection of games and consoles than buy something that's download only.
myztryJan 27, 2012Buried
There are a whole lot of issues.
1. Hard drives have jumped in price for the foreseeable future due to the Tawain floods.
2. Digital downloads provide nothing for the retailers to sell. They are powerful entities that may just decide it is no longer worth selling the console itself.
3. Digital downloads seeks to remove first sale rights (and equivalent) which grant ownership and protect the consumer from abuse.
4. Consoles die which can take out a whole software library in one hit unlike media based software which is only individually vulnerable.
5. Download speeds & caps are still a very real part of The Internet and inhibit both software and content based distribution. It is not uncommon for multi-GB downloads to incur substantial extra costs to the end-user.
Angry_MuppetJan 27, 2012Buried
Big difference between a sporadic update and a continual onslaught.
HumanWikiJan 27, 2012Buried
That is pretty much true of anything that someone sells used... My used car sale doesn't benefit all the people that made it. Selling my used computer/console doesn't benefit anyone that designed or built it. Games are no different at all.
Computers, Consoles, Cars, Trucks, etc. all take money, time, effort, people, manufacturing facilities, distributors, etc... I can tell you that making a new style car from scratch is very expensive and time consuming. Creating games from scratch isn't the only market done this way.
So, what you're really calling for is abolishing the entire used market which will create even more waste and demand on resources because now, everything has to be created new. Plus, you'd actually hurt the economy, because people that would buy used now can't, and, would be forced to just do something else, which could be to buy nothing at all. Now, you've taken away from the employees at places that sell used commodities, that transport used commodities, etc.
Just because the people that originally made the game aren't getting more profit from the sale of the used one doesn't mean that it's not benefiting someone else that in turn would end up buying something new they wouldn't have originally been able to had I not sold them my used product and kept them in a job.
and so on and so on.
chadpyleJan 26, 2012Buried
-"Internet speeds won't ever be able to handle a large download like that."
That reminds me of something a colleague said to me several years ago: "A forty gig hard drive! Who's ever going to use that much space!"
hibby76Jan 26, 2012Buried
I just hope that they figure out that a $60 game that I CAN sell (lend, trade, etc) has a very different value than a game that I can never sell, trade, or lend. Downloadable content should follow Steam's model when it comes to pricing.
shingoexJan 26, 2012Buried
Some first-0gen PS2 games shipped on CD until they realized the laser was crappy, thus forcing even small games to come out on DVD.
neotechniJan 27, 2012Buried
"There's a word for people like that. Murderers. "
You're exaggerating to the point of absurdity.
A friend lent me Dead Space, I loved the game so much I bought it, Dead Space 2 (collector's edition), Dead Space Mobile, Dead Space Martyr, 6 Dead Space comics, the Dead Space hacking minigame, Dead Space extraction
Yes, he is such a murderer
mtownJan 26, 2012Buried
Because not everybody has a stable internet connection?